Friday, May 27, 2016

Facebook Banned This Abortion Meme But Death Threats Against Christians OK



This meme was just banned from our page:



It was just starting to get lots of shares too:


We can't have a conservative Christian page becoming popular on Facebook and people being challenged to see abortion as evil now can we?

I guess though that the media aren't really interested in reporting on this kind of censorship, unless it involves a beautiful girl with a cute pet hedgehog, and then they might consider reporting on it as did the Daily Mail:



What happened to her though is minor compared to what has been happening to us. (Two of our pages were totally shut down and deleted by Facebook for speaking against Islam, Abortion, and Atheism). Maybe I need to get a model and pet hedgehog to help us out with the page in order to get more people to take notice?

Meanwhile Facebook continues to show their bias and allows non-Christians to spew out their hatred of God and all things Christians, as with this person who is making death threats against Christians and posted a satanic cross:




We reported this post, and Facebook responded that it does NOT violate their community "standards":




As I've mentioned before, I encourage you to sign up by email to this blog and follow us on Twitter to keep you in the loop, as it's likely just a matter of time before Facebook shut us down again.

What do you think? Leave your comment below.

Saturday, May 21, 2016

The Dangerous Preparationism of Paul Washer


I'm reblogging this as I think it's an important topic that needs to be discussed.

On today's program, I discussed the connection between the preparationist theology of early American Puritanism and it's connection to the theology of Paul Washer. I review of ten minute segment of a Paul Washer sermon which demonstrates his dependence on this view of Christian conversion, and discussed the danger inherent in this approach.

To listen to the audio discussion:

http://justandsinner.blogspot.co.nz/2013/10/the-preparationism-of-paul-washer.html

Christian Page Shut Down by Facebook For Criticizing Islam, Abortion, and Atheism


On the 17th of February this year the God or Absurdity Facebook page was shut down for criticizing Islam (including posts against Islamic immigration), abortion, and atheism. At that point the page had over 11 thousand likes, and the weekly reach was over a million people viewing things we'd posted. Not long before the page was shut down it had even reached over 1.7 million for the weekly reach. A lot of the memes and videos we were posting were starting to go viral.

In the wake of that we moved to a backup page - God or Absurdity Reloaded. That lasted about a month before Facebook did the same thing and shut it down. They rejected my appeal and deleted both of the pages. We're now on our third page - God or Absurdity Revolutions, and are having similar problems with censorship and bans.

Here's some examples of the kind of things that they've censored us for:

ISLAM:


ABORTION:



ATHEISM:


Facebook even censored our cover picture:





The above posts are just a few examples of several dozen that have been censored from our pages and got our admins banned (sometimes up to 30 days) and eventually our pages shut down and removed.

Meanwhile Facebook is fine with pages that post things that you'd think surely violate their "community standards" such as pages that advocate burning down churches.



Here's a post (that Facebook said did not violate their community standards) from an atheist page that posted that Christians deserve to be killed, and here basically calls Israel modern day Nazis:



Here's a 12 minute video that I made where I discuss how Facebook have censored me:


What happened to us was totally unjust, and as I mentioned in the video I made, it is an example of what happens when Facebook ends up colluding with atheist trolls and other pawns of Satan.

What you can do to help

What are your thoughts on this? Leave your comment below.

Saturday, May 14, 2016

Our Page Was Shut Down For "Hate Speech"

I found out the other day that the official reason that our 'God or Absurdity Reloaded' page was shut down was for hate speech.

I was given this comment from someone that admitted that they helped get our page shut down:




Here's a clearer shot of the report:


It would have been nice if Facebook had actually told us this information, instead of just the people that reported us.

This person hasn't said exactly what we've said that was hate speech. Perhaps it was our cover pic that was hate speech?


Or perhaps it was this kind of thing that was hate speech?


Oh no, wait. That's not hate speech according to Facebook as they've said that page doesn't violate their community standards.

Perhaps this was hate speech?



No, that's not hate speech either, as after reporting that to Facebook they said it didn't violate their community standards.

So I guess according to FB it's ok to call for assassinating people you don't like, and to call for burning down churches, but it's not ok to call abortion murder, or to call ISIS Islamic as we've been doing?

So what kind of person thinks that our page is hate speech? When I took a look at the profile of the person that thinks we deserve to be shut down, I found that it was made by a person who has a black cat and moon tattoo on their profile that is the kind of tattoo that would be popular with those involved in Wicca (witchcraft).



Also on their profile they had liked the militant atheist page 'Atheist Republic' and also liked many pro marijuana Facebook pages.



All of that says a lot really about the kind of person that reports us.

The reality is that the Jesus of the Bible said things that today Facebook would probably consider hate speech. It is right to hate that which is evil.







While we should not express unrighteous hatred towards individuals, it is right to hate evil. The Bible says that we are to "hate what is evil" (Romans 12:9). The context of that verse also includes loving that which is good and right. True love will hate evil because of the tremendous harm it does and the immense suffering it brings to people. It is right to hate evils such as crime, murder, abortion, Islamism, and atheistic darwinism.
All of those things cause great suffering to those who commit evil, and great suffering for those on the receiving end of their evil acts.

Facebook should be a place where we are free to speak against things that are wrong in society. Unfortunately Facebook have made it so that trolls and generally sick individuals can bully people and shout down ideas that they don't like because they are colluding with these pawns of darkness who can't handle the truth and gang up to get pages like ours shut down for speaking the truth.

What do you think? Leave your comments below.

Tuesday, May 3, 2016

Answering Answers in Genesis on Hell: An Infinitely Bad Argument

I'm reblogging this important article from Rethinking Hell that is a response to an article on Hell by Answers in Genesis.


RETHINKING Hell doesn’t take a stance on many issues other than final punishment, including questions about the age of the earth or the right way to interpret the creation narratives in the book of Genesis. Some of our team members are sympathetic to Answers In Genesis’s points of view on these matters, others less so. If you want to hear two fine fellows who share AIG’s stance, you can listen to Chris Date interviewing Chuck McKnight, whom AIG forced to resign (i.e. fired) when they learned that he held to (what we consider to be) a biblical view of judgment.
Speaking of Answers in Genesis and fire, while Rethinking Hell does not take a stance on such secondary matters as the right way to read early Genesis, Answers in Genesis does take a strong view on the doctrine of hell. This was brought to the forefront again recently when AIG published an article by Tim Challies called “What Kind of God Would Condemn People to Eternal Torment?

Challies’s answer to this troubling question is striking. In reply to the question of how we can believe in a God who would torment people forever, he has a question of his own: “How can you believe in a God who would not?” 

For example:
The Bible describes hell as a place where God pours out His wrath on people who have been created in His image (Matthew 10:28; 25:46; Revelation 14:10–11; 20:10–15). God the Father has appointed His Son to be the eternal Judge who will condemn people to hell (Matthew 25:31–34, 25:41; Acts 10:42). This is not momentary or temporary torture dispensed by Satan or his demons, but eternal torment poured out by God Himself. This punishment will be inflicted upon conscious human beings, people who know who they are, what they were, what they have done (Luke 16:22–31).
It is common for proponents of the doctrine of eternal torment to simply take their view for granted, so that any time the Bible refers to the concept of judgment or punishment, they will assume that it is referring to eternal torment. But even a quick glance at the content of the passages Challies lists shows that they do not support this idea. It is incredible, actually, that the list of proof texts begins with Matthew 10:28, a passage where Jesus states that God is “able to destroy both life and body in hell.”1 The typical inclusion of Matthew 25:46 is somewhat frustrating. As Conditionalists have been pointing out for a long time, this passage refers to “eternal punishment” without telling us what the punishment consists of. As traditionalists like Jonathan Edwards have candidly acknowledged, permanent destruction would certainly be eternal. Challies elsewhere makes the same error, saying that simply because Matthew 25:26 says “eternal punishment,” the lost “will never cease to exist or be annihilated.” To this we can say: “Get thee to Jonathan Edwards!” Or take Challies’s inclusion of Acts 10:42, where St. Peter proclaims that God has appointed Jesus to be the judge of the living and the dead. There is nothing about such a passage that lends support to the doctrine of eternal torment. There is a lesson here, not just in biblical interpretation but in critical thinking more generally: the multiplication of individual pieces of evidence in itself does not make your argument stronger unless the evidence is relevant. Generating long lists of proof texts may be visually impressive if your audience assumes that each piece of evidence you list must be making your case stronger, but it is something of a stolen pleasure if none of the evidence you are citing really supports the case you are trying to make.
The truth is that of all the passages Challies alludes to throughout his article, only two could ever plausibly be used as part of a case for the doctrine of eternal torment, and both of them (Revelation 14:10-11 and Revelation 20:10-15) appear in contexts where a simplistic literal reading of the passage is quite certainly the wrong one. I think we can all be confident that Challies does not think that Revelation’s references to beings such as a lamb, fantastical animals with parts of different animals combined into one creature, and a dragon should be taken literally. Yet somehow he thinks it is legitimate to assume that the details of what those beings do in the vision should be taken as literal history. These passages have been discussed before at Rethinking Hell. The short story is, Challies is dead wrong when he claims that “God’s Word is clear” in teaching “the necessity and existence of eternal, conscious torment in hell.” On the contrary, as many Christians have learned—sometimes to their great surprise, having grown up simply taking Challies’s view for granted—the Bible clearly and repeatedly teaches that sin ends in death; that the lost will die, perish, be destroyed, be no more, pass away; and that eternal life or immortality is found in Christ alone.
Infinity is the concept of an unending series of numbers. How is Challies applying the notion of infinity to God?Challies’s main argument, however, is not biblical but philosophical. He argues that since God is eternally holy, it follows that the punishment for sin must be eternal torment. But there is nothing at all compelling about this argument, in spite of its popularity. In the first place, it is not clear what is even being claimed here; and in the second place, it is far from obvious that the conclusion would follow even if something clear were being claimed. Some of the claims here are fairly familiar. For example, Challies alleges that “When you sin against an infinite God—and all sin is primarily oriented toward God—you accrue an infinite debt.” But some of it is opaque. In particular, what does it mean to say that God is “infinite”? Infinity is the concept of an unending series of numbers. How is Challies applying the notion of infinity to God? We just don’t know. As far as I can tell, Challies is simply reverse-engineering the argument. He is trying to get to the conclusion of a punishment consisting of an infinite number of days/weeks/years of torment, so he inserts the language of infinity into his description of God. If Challies is using the word infinitely with its typical numerical meaning, then it does not say anything coherent to say that God is “infinite.” The classical way of talking about God is much more helpful here: God is “perfect being” or “perfectly holy” or “perfectly good.” When we say that a room has no light in it at all, we do not say that it is “infinitely dark.” Instead we say that it is “completely dark” or “in total darkness” or perhaps “perfectly dark.” Similarly, God is perfect or complete, not “infinite” in some numerical sense. Indeed, to say that God actually has an infinite number of things, whatever those things may be, is problematic from a philosophical point of view as it implies the existence of an actual infinite.
What if God’s perfect, eternal, holy being means that God will not tolerate the presence of sin forever?What’s more, it is by no means obvious that this philosophical argument is valid. Start with the premise “God is perfectly good” or “God is perfectly holy” or “God is eternal” or even just “God is perfect in every way.” How exactly are we supposed to get from there to the conclusion that God will punish people with never-ending torment? In terms of bare logic, the conclusion certainly does not follow from the premise alone. What if God’s perfect, eternal, holy being means that God will not tolerate the presence of sin forever? Does not the complete and permanent destruction of sin satisfy this demand of holiness? On what authority does Mr. Challies declare that an “infinite” God (setting aside the unexplained matter of what that means) is bound to make people suffer forever rather than bring them to an end forever?
This is precisely the sort of unexplained and unwarranted leap that has caused many to stop and say, “Wait a minute, what? How is this argument even supposed to work?”
Both biblically and philosophically, the idea that those who reject God will finally come to an end—although troubling—finds clear support. The overwhelming biblical testimony is there for all to see that eternal life in any shape or form is found in Christ alone. Evil will not last forever. The end of the lost is death, and one day God’s kingdom will really be “all in all.” God’s perfect holiness will be satisfied in a way that makes sense to our basic notions of justice. Those who reject God will not get God or anything that God offers. Those who reject the very source of their being will eventually lose their being. It is not for nothing that morally intelligent people wonder at the notion that the most perfect, good, just, and loving Person imaginable would punish any offence with literally endless suffering. The biblical vision is of a future as good as it can possibly be, which contrasts in the strongest possible terms with Challies’s vision of what God will do: “It is truly, literally impossible to imagine a worse reality than this one.”
It is encouraging to see that when AIG shared a link to Challies’s article on their Facebook page there was a significant backlash from Christian readers, not because they objected to the concept of final judgment at all, but because they objected strongly to the claim that the doctrine of eternal torment was clearly biblical—or biblical at all! Their reply was clear: “This is not what the Bible teaches. The wages of sin is death.”
I hope that Answers in Genesis will take the time to consider the responses they are getting and to take a look at the doctrine of hell with a view to finding what Scripture really has to say on the matter. These strained and unbiblical arguments are not going to help reassure anybody that they are seeking answers in Scripture at all, in Genesis or elsewhere.


[The original article is found here.]

Answers in Genesis Employee Forced to Resign Over Hell Issue


I think Answers in Genesis are doing a great job when it comes to biblical creation, but it was disappointing to hear that they forced one of their employees to resign because he no longer held to the traditional view of hell but instead had come to believe that conditionalism / annihilation was a stronger biblical position.



For the full audio discussion see here.




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